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Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 5:59 pm
Welcome to this evening’s online support chat. We are blessed that today is our 3rd anniversary of the launch of Day By Day too. Please feel free to share your story of pet caregiving or pet loss. We’re here for you.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 5:59 pm
Good evening.

Guest_974

September 23, 2015 – 5:59 pm
Heather

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 5:59 pm
Hi Judy. How did the sub-q fluids go?

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:00 pm
Hey everyone

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:00 pm
Welcome Heather. We are happy to have you join us. Please feel free to share your story.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:00 pm
Abby just left with my friends and will return in an hour or so. I took her to a local park after work and she seemed happy and almost puppy-like.

Guest_652

September 23, 2015 – 6:01 pm
Hello all, this is my first chat and it comes at the perfect time. Thank you for this.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:01 pm
They will do the infusion…

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:01 pm
Is anyone else facing renal failure?

Chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:02 pm
Hello and welcome

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:02 pm
Oh Judy I’m so glad you have such good friends for support. And yes, our Pookie was suffering from renal failure. We gave her sub-q fluids twice a day for over 13 months. It was a hard road.

Guest_652

September 23, 2015 – 6:02 pm
My boy turned 17 in May, and he’s really been going downhill for a while, but much more so in the last few weeks. His time is coming, and it’s ripping me apart.

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:02 pm
Hi everyone. This also comes at a perfect time for me…I had to say goodbye to my beloved Winston on Labor Day this year

Guest_652

September 23, 2015 – 6:03 pm
By the way, my name is Patty Warren. Not sure how to be anything other than a “guest”.

Guest_652

September 23, 2015 – 6:03 pm
Heather, I am so very sorry about Winston.

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:03 pm
Patty, type your name in the spot where it says Guest.

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:03 pm
In the box where it says Guest 652 you can highlight and change it

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:03 pm
I am so very sorry for your loss, Heather.

Chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:03 pm
so sorry to hear that Patty, my thoughts and prayers are with you

Chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:04 pm
very sorry Heather

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:04 pm
I am with you, Patty…

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:04 pm
I had to make the tough decision for my HoneyBear on Sept 12… I get his ashes on Friday… I’m having a really hard time…

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:04 pm
Thanks Judy…What’s worse is I said goodbye to my beloved kitty last October…So I lost both my furry babies in a year

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:04 pm
Heather i’m so sorry to see your sufferingi this pain too

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:04 pm
Thank you Chris. I’ve lost other dogs before, but losing one to old age is so hard. I have nothing to fight….

Chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:04 pm
so sorry Brittany

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:05 pm
Sorry Brittany…Its hard to get them…I cried all night when I got my babies ashes

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:05 pm
Oh I am so sorry to hear of your two losses so close to each other…

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:06 pm
Patty, I agree. Old age is very challenging in so many ways.

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:06 pm
What I am struggling most with today is making the “final” call….It’s so darn hard to know when the time is right.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:07 pm
My honeybear was 5.5 yrs old… he had cutaneous t-cell lymphoma… we tried so hard

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:07 pm
That’s awful Brittany, I am so very sorry.

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:07 pm
Patty, I went through that with Winston…He was up, he was down, he was up, he was down…So very hard…But when he wasn’t eating, wasn’t drinking, and he was throwing up and had blood coming out, I knew he wanted to go join his sister.

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:07 pm
Brittany, I’m so sorry

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:08 pm
So true, I had to euthanize my dear Bailey on August 15. He did let me know when the time was right. I NEVER thought that I could euthanize a dear member of my family, and am now facing the same thing with my dear Abby…

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:08 pm
It’s so hard….

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:09 pm
it is the worst decision

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:09 pm
Heather, my experience with Bailey was similar. He stopped eating, stopped taking meds, had ****** diarrhea, was very unsteady and I KNEW he was dying. I feel at peace with the decision.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:09 pm
knowing you are giving them peace but shattering your heart into pieces at the same time

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:09 pm
That’s a huge part of it, Heather. Chance has been up and down SO many times. But he’s getting so weak, to the point of having trouble defecating, and it’s so hard to see him like that. He’s still eating but that’s about all he’s got left.

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:10 pm
The final journey is often filled with anticipatory grief and knowing when to make the decision to say goodbye is the hardest thing for any pet parent. It can be overwhelming no matter what. The head has to overrule the heart to make the decision. In the meantime, the heart breaks…

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:10 pm
There are resources online including at DBD on quality of life that I find helpful.

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:10 pm
Did anyone else read the Huffington Post article yesterday? That really got me thinking a lot as well.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:10 pm
What did it say?

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:10 pm
My anticipatory grief has been awful the last few weeks.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:11 pm
I read a lot of articles during his last week

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:11 pm
Yes, I can surely relate to that.

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:11 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jessica-vogelsang/the-biggest-mistake-pet-o_b_8166102.html

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:12 pm
I am so sorry for you loss, Brittany.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:12 pm
i’m scared to read articles now that he is gone… because it is so hard to know if the right decisions were made… thank you, judy

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:12 pm
Many think grief starts after loss but clearly it starts as we are waiting…during the final aspects of our caregiving. The not knowing of the when and the “decision-making” aspect sends you into grief far before the actual loss.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:12 pm
So true, Kathryn.

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:12 pm
That is so true, Kathryn.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:13 pm
yes

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:13 pm
That is so true Kathryn…Especially if you had your beloved from when they are babies

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:13 pm
I am trying to remain as present with and grateful for each minute with Abby.

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:13 pm
All of my other dogs before have been “terminal” and have told me loud and clear it was time to go. This is the first time I’ve experience an extended anticipatory grief and it’s all consuming.

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:13 pm
Jessica Vogelsang is a member of my other organization the International Association of Animal Hospice and Palliative Care. We work with vets and vet staff who work with end of life issues.

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:14 pm
Being present is the hardest part because the anticipation of what is to come next looms. Its easy to say, “enjoy the time you have

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:15 pm
but its hard when you know you’ll be bereaved from your beloved pet. :o(

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:15 pm
Yes.

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:15 pm
Right, and I try to hard to be grateful for every minute, as I know it’s a gift but…

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:16 pm
I was present for both my babies. Winston was quick but my Klondike was terrible. She was so dehydrated, it took three shots…I think that made it worse for me cause it was almost like she didn’t want to leave me

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:16 pm
That must have been very difficult, Heather.

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:16 pm
Though for all the sadness I am feeling, it is nothing compared to all the love and joy they gave me while they were here.

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:17 pm
And I will open my heart and home up to another when the timing is right

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:17 pm
I am a licensed tech and I’ve been on the other end of situations like that, and it’s just beyond awful. I am so sorry, Heather.

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:17 pm
And your words so inspiring.

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:17 pm
We are always working for more time…quality time no doubt. Anticipatory grief is when we emotionally know without question that loss is to come. If only we could stop it. If only we had that control.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:17 pm
i didnt know it would be so quick… i thought i would have time to listen to him breathe and tell him i loved him

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:18 pm
He knows Brittany

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:18 pm
Heather, that’s so true. Grief is the price we pay for love. And would we trade the love just to avoid the grief?

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:19 pm
i am sure he knows Brittany

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:19 pm
I KNOW without a doubt that my boy (and soon my girl) would want me to love another dog as much as I did them…

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:19 pm
Brittany, I have no doubt that he knows how much you loved him.

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:19 pm
i am sure they would as well

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:20 pm
Bailey’s euthanasia was very quick as well, Brittany. I felt like you. Even though the end was coming, it still came sooner than I ever expected. He surely knows your love!

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:21 pm
We adopted 3 kitties after we lost all three of our dogs in 8 months. In many ways I see my kitties as a gift from the dogs. They have given us hope that we will feel whole again…we can feel joy again.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:21 pm
yes i just felt like my world was slowly coming apart and then it crashed… i had to take medication and sleep the rest of the day… i’m still having panic attacks when i allow myself to think about it

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:21 pm
I try to take comfort in all the funny things Winston would do…Like when he tried to eat food off the counter the day after I brought him home from surgery. Oh did I mention it was surgery on his front leg to remove a cancer lump…and he was not allowed to jump…crazy doggie I had…LOL

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:21 pm
Depending upon

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:22 pm
hehehe

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:23 pm
honeybear never let his cancer stop him

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:23 pm
awwww

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:23 pm
Brittany, have you been able to take a break from your grief?

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:23 pm
Oh, Brittany. I am so sorry, do you have local support?

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:23 pm
what kind of break?

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:25 pm
I am actually finding work to be a break from my grief. I mostly put it on hold as much as possible for the work day. Not always successful, but a nice distraction.

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:25 pm
Emotional break or distraction that helps you take care of you…an amazing caregiver!

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:25 pm
Yes I agree work is a great distraction

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:26 pm
work was distracting me but i had a severe panic attack on friday at work and had to leave…

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:26 pm
My colleagues are kind people with pets and several have lost them recently…

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:26 pm
last week was so hard to come home from work to an empty house

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:26 pm
The evening’s can be the hardest. Do you have someone you can reach out to when you have the panic attacks?

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:27 pm
that’s good Judy

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:27 pm
my mom…my sister… my friends… and i have medication…

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:27 pm
yes, coming home was very difficult…took a while to find my new normal

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:27 pm
It’s good to chat with people who understand. I can feel like I am wearing people out with my grief.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:28 pm
i know i am

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:28 pm
Oh that’s good Brittany. Please know you can call us (DBD) and reach out when you have moments of mourning. That’s what we’re here for!

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:29 pm
thank you… i will keep your number in my phone

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:29 pm
i saw that there is a support group near rittenhouse square?

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:29 pm
Often times we do feel like we are imposing on people when we are in grief but that’s when we need them the most. To be present for another’s grief is one of the greatest gifts we can give another.

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:29 pm
that’s good Brittany…rely on those that understand…embrace the positive…ignore the negative

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:29 pm
I know the feeling Judy, I feel like I am wearing my friends and family out with “how is Chance today?”

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:30 pm
Yes, we are starting a support circle in center city, Philly. The next one will be Oct. 19th. Its always the 3rd Monday of each month. This past week was a no go because of the Pope’s preparations.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:30 pm
yes i work next to city hall… i’ll put oct 19th on my calendar

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:31 pm
Yes, Patty. I feel like having two dying dogs within two months is too much for people to hear about at times…

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:31 pm
Please do that. We offer a safe secure environment where you can share much like this only in person. Its a beautiful way to receive support for the grief that comes before, during and after loss.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:32 pm
judy…. that’s just so unfair

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:32 pm
Get all the support and love you need in this difficult time…Cause yes it is always very hard…At night and in the mornings

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:32 pm
I know that feeling too, as my other dog…a 14 year old is not doing well either.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:32 pm
I had 13 great years with Bailey and over 15 with Abby…

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:33 pm
perhaps it is too much not to rely on others

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:33 pm
Judy, we went through the same thing with our 3 girls. Every couple of months we had to say goodbye. People in our circle were amazed by the amount of compounded grief we had going on.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:33 pm
It helps to know that others have gone through compounded grief. Thank you.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:33 pm
my boyfriend has always seen me as a strong courageous woman… he had his first experience with the severe panic attack and i think it really worried him… but i was strong the last 5 years because of my honeybear… without him i am empty

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:34 pm
You are still a very strong and courageous woman – even with the panic attacks.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:35 pm

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:35 pm
Yes we are all courageous

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:36 pm
Brittany, to work through grief is the hardest thing we as humans have to face in this life. Courage is to let someone walk with you as you mourn. The roller coaster of emotions can rock anyone’s world even those who are strong emotionally.

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:36 pm
you are still strong…and asking for help is a sign of strength, not weaknes

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:36 pm
thank you…

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:37 pm
Yes Chris is totally right!

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:37 pm
And you know, its not even asking for help per say. Its asking for support, empathy and understanding that the pain of grief demands. Its is vital that we humans are present for another when he or she is in the pain of grief.

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:37 pm
amen

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:37 pm
You are strong, Brittany. But we are all vulnerable, and need support. and you need lots of it right now.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:37 pm
Well said.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:38 pm
some people dont understand that… no one can “fix” this for me… i just need support …

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:38 pm
yes, patty… yes

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:39 pm
That’s right Brittany

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:39 pm
Without the ability to mourn (grief gone public) we can not continue on our journey to healing. We are forever changed by the grief we experience in life. And we find who really can and will be present for us even if they don’t understand the depth of pain we’re experiencing in loss or in many cases during decision-making.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:39 pm
Sometimes we just need someone to be present, maybe in silence or with us as we cry.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:40 pm
yes SILENCE

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:40 pm
agreed

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:40 pm
I am blessed to have a long-time spiritual director who is so very comfortable just letting me cry…

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:41 pm
that’s great Jusy

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:41 pm
Judy, so true…even silence can be so very supportive. There’s no getting over grief…its only about getting through it. And yes, there’s no fixing it. Its about allowing ourselves to authentically mourn our loss.

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:41 pm
Judy*

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:42 pm
And I sometimes find myself uttering strange sounds of grief…

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:43 pm
Many people are uncomfortable with others in grief. They often don’t know what to say or do (because they think they have to “fix” it). We don’t educate our society enough about how to present and supportive of another. You think it would be innate to humans but sometimes, not so much.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:43 pm
Very true. Those who are most comfortable seem to be those with similar experience.

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:44 pm
you don’t need to fix…you just need to be

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:44 pm
Right…

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:46 pm
I am finding dealing with Abby’s incontinence very challenging. I am constantly covering with plastic and washing/drying bedding and blankets.

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:46 pm
Empathy, its a beautiful thing.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:46 pm
i had to put honeybear in adult diapers at the beginning of his chemo treatment

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:46 pm
Her little bladder can’t hold the amount of water she is drinking. She is peeing rivers…

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:46 pm
he was so embarrassed by all his accidents that it helped him even thoguh it seemed silly

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:47 pm
Was he a big dog, Brittany?

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:47 pm
yes

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:47 pm
I remember cleaning up my floor a lot towards the end with Winston

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:48 pm
65 pounds… could jump up and grab a chicken roaster off the kitchen counter

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:48 pm
I get the impression that Abby is very embarrassed with her incontinence too.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:48 pm
the doggie diapers wouldn’t fit him

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:48 pm
we went for the men’s diapers that i could wrap around him with the velcro

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:48 pm
Caregiving can be very challenging. Often I am amazed at pet parent’s commitment and dedication to the caregiving. Many have said they never knew they could do it.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:49 pm
OK, Abby is down to 14 pounds. I will investigate the dog diapers. She wets herself while sleeping.

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:50 pm
toward the end, his tumors were ulcerating and necratizing.. the smell of rotting flesh filled our house… dont know how i kept going because i generally have a smell gag reflex… but he was my furbaby, and i knew it wasn’t his fault… i kept him as clean as i could, always using pet wipes and washing his cone when he was getting abreak from it..

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:50 pm
I have her side of the bed and my side. Hers is much more protected and I wrap myself in separate bedding to avoid getting wet…

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:50 pm
honeybear would wake up in a puddle of pee… he felt much better with the diapers once he got used to it

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:51 pm
You are a wonderful parent, Brittany!

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:51 pm
they have cute fashionable wraps too… so abby can be pretty and protected

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:51 pm
u are too, judy

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:51 pm
Thank you.

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:51 pm
praying for all of you and your precious babies

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:52 pm
Thank you! Blessings to all of you!

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:52 pm
You too Judy…and to all of us

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:52 pm
i wish honeybear couldve slept in bed with me… but i slept on the couch in the living room so i could be close to him… i miss when he would snuggle up for bed time

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:52 pm
thank you… definitely prayers

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:53 pm
Me too, I now sleep holding a teddy bear since Bailey was my snuggle buddy…

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:53 pm
Did I just admit that???

Brittany Rusk

September 23, 2015 – 6:53 pm
i sleep with honeybear’s puppy… he took his last breath laying on it…

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:54 pm
As always, we are here for you. Our hearts are joined with yours as you continue of your caregiving journey and through the deep pain. And no worried, I often cuddle a stuffed schnauzer when my kitties are snuggled next to me.

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:54 pm

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:54 pm
Chance just goes to the bathroom all over the house now. I can’t bring myself to put him in diapers.

Brittany

September 23, 2015 – 6:55 pm
if i could post a picture of honey in his diapers, he looked so adorable… but it wasn’t an easy process to work through

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:56 pm
Sorry Patty. praying for you and Chance

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 6:56 pm
Me too.

Brittany

September 23, 2015 – 6:56 pm
prayers for chance!

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:56 pm
Thank you. Honestly, I just am struggling with knowing if it’s time. I know no one can tell me, and it’s my decision but it’s a tough one.

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 6:57 pm
Yes it is a tough one

chris

September 23, 2015 – 6:57 pm
understood

Brittany

September 23, 2015 – 6:58 pm
I didn’t believe people when they said that i would know… or that honeybear would tell me… i’m still having to work through that part of the grief process… but there are times when i feel at peace that he is no longer suffering… and then there are times i question myself and get upset…

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:58 pm
If you’ve not joined our YahooGroup, please let me know and I will send you an invitation. It’s yet another opportunity for you to share with other pet caregivers who are walking a similar road. Also, be sure to check out our website for area support circles and pet caregiver seminars. We have one coming up at HOPE VS on Oct. 17th dedicated to The Final Journey and Life After Loss. It’s a tw

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:58 pm
The poor guy can’t hear or see, has such bad arthritis he can’t walk very far and struggles to get up. He has some neurologic stuff going on and has no joy in his life. he’s basically just existing. But is still eating and tries to “find” me in the house. He started falling over when defecating this week which has me thinking it’s very close to being time. But I am struggling with makin

Brittany

September 23, 2015 – 6:58 pm
paws up in prayer for these tough times

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 6:58 pm
the call

Brittany

September 23, 2015 – 6:59 pm
what is Hope VS?

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 6:59 pm
Hope Veterinary Specialists located in Malvern, PA.

Brittany

September 23, 2015 – 7:00 pm
oh ok

Judy

September 23, 2015 – 7:03 pm
Good night and blessings to all. Thank you for your support and wisdom.

Brittany

September 23, 2015 – 7:03 pm
Same.. thank you as well

Kathryn

September 23, 2015 – 7:03 pm
Thank you all for joining us this evening. Our prayers and thoughts go out to those who are continuing to caregiver. We are here if you’d like to speak personally about your decision-making. For those who have had a loss, please know we are here for you to mourn with. We will walk with you. You are not alone. Good night and blessings to you.

chris

September 23, 2015 – 7:04 pm
good night and thank you

Heather

September 23, 2015 – 7:04 pm
thank you good night everyone

Patty

September 23, 2015 – 7:07 pm
Thank you so much.